Pat R. Ramsey

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1. Religious believers see real good in religion.
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You see human sacrifice, unwarranted belief, homophobia and misogyny. They see self-sacrifice, humility in the face of transcendent nobility, and "love your neighbor as yourself." There is real good in religion, and not accidentally. It was created by people living in community.

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To you, 'atheist' perhaps recalls Russell or Sagan or Le Guin; but the religious think of Stalin, Mao, and Nietzsche's will to power. It seems common, among what I'll call 'ordinary' religious folk, to believe that absent divine command, there just isn't any basis for ethics.

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Ideas have a place, but the way to win hearts is to be the most generous, caring, hard-working, honest, and joyful people on the map. So long as religious congregations are the largest charitable givers, we can't make the case that they are superfluous. We are 'saved' by works!

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6. Want to change the world? Marry a believer.
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This gives you overwhelming incentive to play nice. It gives you a deep look into the mind of a believer. It gives you a chance to show your spouse and spouse's family that what they tell each other about unbelievers is false. And your kids will see both sides, from the inside.

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7. There is no way to "win" a family fight.
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Even if you chicken out of #6, we have to stop with the "culture war" idiom and see each other as family. That's humanism, right? So the only way to win is to make peace. Trust what is best to do its own winning in the long run, and stop hitting people with your ideas. It hurts.

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You get credit by giving. So give lots. And when asked if you believe in divine judgment, or why benefiting others makes you happy, be ready to say what you believe in few words. Mine is, "Your good is mine." That's community, the way of living together well, family love.

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I owe Dale McGowan for this one. Trust what is best to do its own winning, and don't turn yourself into Darth Vader trying to convert Luke in the meantime. Darth Vader wasn't a good dad.

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10. The truth will out, if we don't mess it up.
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If you see religion's long grip and shake your head at my quietism - I understand. But each person has to seek meaning freely, for themselves. And the long term chances have to favor the objectively best beliefs. So please concentrate on not making humanism look bad!

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They believe that we are self-deceived and ungrateful; willfully blind. And like any large group of people, we do have some like that. So we need to show honesty and indeed gratitude for the stories of dropped stones and good Samaritans. We wouldn't be so far along without them.

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Religious people believe that theirs is the only remedy for human depravity and unbridled lusts. We need to show them that we understand the need for humility and restraint that human fallibility creates; and clearly explain the reasons we see for living a morally good life.

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